Storified by Jason Evan Mihalko · Sat, Feb 22 2014 20:38:31
.@SpringaldJack I'm including cultural and historical under the umbrella of environment, along with choice.
@jaypsyd what's wrong with choosing it is... Empowerment is threatening to those who fear taking responsibility for their own choices.
See: http://t.co/j07E10dpaF #radiowisdom @Ashlandian Guns To Surpass Car Accidents As Leading Cause Of Deaths http://t.co/OKRCLaDf1t
@jaypsyd in fact environmental alone doesn't even imply cultural or psychological. Though sexuality is surely affected by these.
.@SpringaldJack I think all of these factors limit our choice, yet there are choices.
@jaypsyd I'll raise the quibble that environmental does not necessarily imply choice.
Despite complex understandings of interplay of genes, biology, environment, culture, & history, we use a false born that way queer identity.
Biological capacities & possibility biological predispositions become focused in different ways, depending on complex environmental factors.
Such a shallow and non reflective argument. @tlrd: Dear Abby to Bigot: Gay People Are 'Born That Way' http://t.co/BGFlAVF9R6
When will we embrace gay and not think it's to be tolerated b/c the poor queers have no choice? @tlrd 'Born That Way' http://t.co/BGFlAVF9R6
Also: no evidence exists that any complex identity is determined by genetics alone. @tlrd 'Born That Way' http://t.co/BGFlAVF9R6
@jaypsyd @tlrd I want to know why the idea that gay people are "born that way" is the "best argument" we should accept homosexuality
@jaypsyd @tlrd I want to know why the idea that gay people are "born that way" is the "best argument" we should accept homosexuality
@Ruaidhri_ @tlrd Yes: pedantic point two: being born that way excludes culture, history, preference, socialization....
(a) Because many haven't learned critical thinking skills. @hamsterRelish @tlrd why "born that way" is the "best argument"
(b) Lack of tools for analyzing impact of homonegativity & heteronormativity @hamsterRelish @tlrd why "born that way" is the "best argument"
(c) Science illiteracy. @hamsterRelish @tlrd why "born that way" is the "best argument"
& (d) Self centered view personal way of being queer is only way to be queer. @hamsterRelish @tlrd why born that way is the best argument
oh. and (e) response to trauma and self hate. @hamsterRelish @tlrd why "born that way" is the "best argument"
@hamsterRelish @jaypsyd @tlrd right? people who are drawn to be clergy or to teach or be burglars aren't born that way.
